Curse

Yanman.be · Jun 16, 2007, 09:08 AM // 09:08

I'm just a humble PvP'er, I want to see YOUR creative minds coming up with new builds using the new slightly overpowered PvE skills. Surely stuff ilke Critical Agility should be useable?

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 16, 2007, 10:06 AM // 10:06

throwing ideas out, eternal aura+avatar (balth or melanru?) and veil of thorns/armor of sanctity/mystic regen/conviction. mystic sweep?

i'd imagine crit agility would be plugged into a regular CD build (75% block and +22AL looks cool for tanking melee dont you think?)

AscalonWarrior · Jun 16, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

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Originally Posted by Xiaxhou of Trinity

throwing ideas out, eternal aura+avatar (balth or melanru?)

I used Eternal Aura + Avatar of Balth to run from LA to every Desert Missions. Incredibly easy, infinite +40 Armor and 33% speed buff

wolfren · Jun 17, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

just a random thorght but the skill "save your selfs" and whirlwind attack could ve use to farm vermins in hard mode with 8+ monsters on you it's maintanible id say. and yes the new sin skill does get landed on almost all meele bars now ^^

thedeadwalk! · Jun 17, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

"Save Yourselves!" targets all other party members, not the one using it.

Zaiden · Jun 17, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Humm running build:

Eternal aura, Melandru's avatar and burning speed

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Burning speed = incridible movement speed bonus, and you are immune to burning, since you are using melandru's. Eternal Aura is used to keep your avatar up.

manitoba1073 · Jun 17, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

I'm just a humble PvP'er, I want to see YOUR creative minds coming up with new builds using the new slightly overpowered PvE skills. Surely stuff ilke Critical Agility should be useable?

How about you come up with something since most PvPers think PvE is so easy?

Now im not flaming or trolling. I really wanna see what PvPers can come up with since they seem to think its so easy.

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 18, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41

they don't claim to be "smarter" than pve'ers. you're comparing two completely different things, pvp and pve builds/players. PvE want buffed up skills because in pve, dmg is basically everything (at least on a surface level). Other types of skills and builds take more effect and impact, consequently leading to a better notice and understanding of them. Once you've PvP a little seriously, PvE is more like a cakerun for fun (i like that rhyme!)

for not meaning to be a troll or flaming, you come off as awfully offensive, confronting, and challenging. ease off the gas buddy?

Tsunami Rain · Jun 18, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

How about you come up with something since most PvPers think PvE is so easy?

Now im not flaming or trolling. I really wanna see what PvPers can come up with since they seem to think its so easy.

Although you say that you arn't flaming, you are portaying to me a sense that you're taking out your frustrations of what other PvP players have said out on the OP.

so as Trinity said, please ease off. I don't want more pvp/pve elitism flames poping up.

As for the skills, I found that these skills could be put to good use. But seeing as how I am taking a break from the farming scene until Eye of The North comes out, I probably won't be testing out any spots.

I will say that after reading through some of the skills, a couple of them will work real well for farming

Destro Maniak · Jun 18, 2007, 11:07 AM // 11:07

Dealdly Paradox->Shadow Form->when about to end sway to -50 cesta->when it ends swap to +30hp offhand for quick 80 health after Shadow Form ends->without losing even 1 second use Heart of Shadows then Feigned Neutrality these will make you survive till Shadow Forms recharge time that 5second remaining.

Healers Boon+Heal Party for 120hp health every 4 second for party

This is prety cool if you have a bip+blood ritual or glyph(whatever it is

) of lesser energy to solve enrgy problem

Oh btw
A cool 55hp MASS AGROO QUICK KILL BUILD
I use this in luxon halycon farming wit my monk anyway if ele/monk a way better. Sadly I dont have ele.
baltazars spirit
protective spirit
soa
shielding hands
glyphe(whatever again

) of elemental power
elemental lord(this is a kurzick skill when at level 5(sentinel you can prety use it indefinent)
sliver armor
glyphe(do you have to say again

) of renewal

just put all points in protecting and earth magic and agro every single luxon asassin on the map and unleash hell upon then one by one BUT 1 by 1 is just how it is done mechanicly(I dont have good english sry but I think you can understand me

) They just become dead in single second or less the chain
glyphe of elemental power->elemental lord->glyphe of renewal->sliver armor

because you have like 26 foes atacking you at the same time they donr have time to flee even have time to understand anything hapeness.

When you play monk primer you have 16 in earth magic maging 13 sec(11+2 from enchantment wrapping) 37 earth damage

When ele primer 20 in earth magic making about 15 sec of sliver+47 earth damage every hit

manitoba1073 · Jun 18, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

So now asking a pvper what he can come up with is now flaming or trolling, I specificly said I wasnt. The OP has said before that PvE was easy so I asked to see what he could come up with simple. Im genuinely curious.

beltran13579 · Jun 18, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

"Save Yourselves!" could be very good in a dual warrior farming build where they give each other +100 armor for ever

Destro Maniak · Jun 18, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by beltran13579

"Save Yourselves!" could be very good in a dual warrior farming build where they give each other +100 armor for ever

The idea of double warrior farm is allways funny for me

. Do they cast mending and succor on each other?

Kaitoa · Jun 18, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by beltran13579

"Save Yourselves!" could be very good in a dual warrior farming build where they give each other +100 armor for ever

Actually not a bad idea!
Raising both armor levels to 250-300. Ofcourse it may be a good idea to have another profession with a war secondary. Say SS Necro/War and the other War taking place of the 55monk, to tank everything. Then the War wouldnt need to worry about enchantment removal.

sorsscriba · Jun 18, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Why not possibly a w/mo and a w/p as a dual team? The W/mo buffing balth spirit, the w/p casting tntf. Of course both using GSY. Outside of those 3 skills (2 each) you can buff up to almost any set of damage skills you desire.

Edit: If more healing is needed SoL could work from the W/mo and for Damage the W/P could bring GftE or something. Whirlwind looks interesting to me as well...

ThaAlchemy · Jun 18, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

So now asking a pvper what he can come up with is now flaming or trolling, I specificly said I wasnt. The OP has said before that PvE was easy so I asked to see what he could come up with simple. Im genuinely curious.

your tone changed.. what happend?

drakun01 · Jun 18, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

All this flaming has given me a great idea. A.Net should choose 8 PvPers, and 8 PvE players, and then make them switch places for a month. We could see what the PvE group would come up with for a PvP build, and what the PvPers could come up with for farming and stuff. That would be COOL!

lennymon · Jun 19, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Ooh like a reality show, and could the winner get honorary titles? like 'honorary pve scrub' and 'honorary pvp noob'? I'll sign up!
who cares.
so far the only useful for farming I've bothered coming up with with is adding tripple shot and nightmare arrow together on a splinter barrage skillbar, but that's not exactly rocket science.

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 19, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

looks like a guild/alliance activity Xp. (still recruiting for guild =])
duo war build looks cool, after pumping up the title (R3 atm) want to explore with whirlwind melee attack too (IW yay!).

Question: Ether Nightmare says that for every energy point lost, -1 degen for 10 sec. would that mean that the degen is multiplied or the 10 sec, or both?

manitoba1073 · Jun 19, 2007, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by ThaAlchemy

your tone changed.. what happend?

No tone change. None at all.

But not much for builds as anerf hit the SS/Kurzik/Luxons skills with a nerf bat already. Guess to many people where actually starting to have fun.

But I was thinking of maybe a W/A build or A/W build for FoW would have been nice for HM but I guess not now.